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    Semi-Automatic Ancient Creep Stacking - Explained by Flodian

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    Semi-Automatic Ancient Creep Stacking - Explained by Flodian

    Post by Flodian on Fri May 15, 2009 6:02 pm

    Hey guys it's me Flodian. This is my first attempt at something like this so please take it easy on me. ^_^ I want to share with you guys the awesome technique of Automatic Creep Stacking

    Semi-Automatic Ancient Creep Stacking

    History of events

    1. This particular method was first used by EHome a team from China. After that particular tournament this technique spread rapidly.

    2. Mugen89 wrote a scourge guide on the matter
    http://forums.dota-allstars.com/index.php?showtopic=245788&hl=ancient+creep+pull

    3. crashoverride incorporated what Mugen89 had and also added in a Sentinel Pull
    http://forums.dota-allstars.com/index.php?showtopic=247359

    4. W00t my Turn! Due to recent version’s map changes the old way points no longer worked. Therefore I did some testing and found new way points that worked. It was mainly the Sentinel Way Points that were changed. Since in crashoverrides’s version he had the creep go through the top lane, which I feel is unnecessary and dangerous.

    Mechanics

    There are two ways of making this work.
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    Neutral Creep Information

    Here is a great guide by MrX from Dota-Allstars
    http://forums.dota-allstars.com/index.php?showtopic=123531

    Flow Chart

    1.Dominate a neutral creep with medium movement speed and enough HP to take a beating. Good examples are Centaur, Wildkin, and Furbolg.
    2.Position creep near the creep cap.
    3.Once the clock hits 50~53 (50 being the earliest 53 being the latest) control your neutral creep to aggravate the Ancient Creeps
    4.Creep Pull to for said way points by holding shift
    5.Depending on where you are you need different numbers of way points.
    a.Sentinel needs 3
    b.Scourge needs 2
    6.Repeat the above steps for as many times as you want.
    7.Wait and profit.

    Remember this method works during the Day since at night not all neutral creeps will have aggression. Only the Dragons and Golems will have aggression.

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    Final Result?




    This particular method will benefit many heroes but some exceptional heroes deserves a distinct mention.


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    Since most Luna’s are going to get Satanic anyways this method is perfect for her.

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    DK always deserves a special mention in this. With his amazing 100% splash damage in a small AoE and then 75% splash damage in a slightly bigger AoE he is perfect for taking down these kinds of waves.



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    Most of these heroes either have cleave or some other skill that can clear creeps waves fast. For the ones that don’t they normally get a BFury anyways and thus solving their problem.

    Video Interpretation

    I have also made a video adaptation of this method.

    [youtube=425,350,1ebs9Tn8XFA]Auto Creep Pulling[/youtube]


    Credits

    • EHome for being the pioneers on this strategy
    • Mugen89 for starting the scourge side
    • Crashoverride for making the revised sentinel and scourge version
    • Microsoft Paint!!
    • Youtube


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    Re: Semi-Automatic Ancient Creep Stacking - Explained by Flodian

    Post by dare18 on Fri May 15, 2009 6:02 pm

    lolwut...


    nice
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    Re: Semi-Automatic Ancient Creep Stacking - Explained by Flodian

    Post by sopas111 on Fri May 15, 2009 6:04 pm

    Morted and Captain are best used here.
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    Re: Semi-Automatic Ancient Creep Stacking - Explained by Flodian

    Post by Shisehise on Fri May 15, 2009 6:09 pm

    Really flo

    Microsoft Paint?

    And you call yourself a graphic designer?
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    Re: Semi-Automatic Ancient Creep Stacking - Explained by Flodian

    Post by Maginx on Sat May 16, 2009 5:17 am

    Shisehise wrote:Really flo

    Microsoft Paint?

    And you call yourself a graphic designer?

    lol!

    Anyways, I love your work (sigs etc)

    ^)_)^ Keep up the good work.. ^_^
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    Re: Semi-Automatic Ancient Creep Stacking - Explained by Flodian

    Post by daxisonlyme on Sun May 17, 2009 9:30 pm

    weeee this is AWESOME!

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